Bewildered

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Education #179, Self-Improvement #93

What if we stopped listening to the controlling voice of the culture around us, and instead learned to reconnect with our own true nature?

Sometimes we aren’t even sure why we feel so bewildered… and discontented… and even downright miserable. Often it’s because we have let the forces of society replace our own instinctive knowledge of what is right for us.

Now, it’s time for us to find that voice again—before it’s too late.

For Martha and Rowan, Job One is to live according to our deepest truths, making the commitment to feeling good even when it means looking weird. We believe that this is how we will reinvent our world—from the inside out— to create a society that’s kinder, more equitable, and more ecologically sustainable than the one we see around us right now.

This is the vision that we laugh and stumble and chat and feel our way towards here on this podcast. Did we mention LAUGH? We want no part of personal and global transformation if it isn’t fun!

So if you struggle to find a place where people who are as idealistic and brokenhearted, as silly and deeply sincere, as bewildered as you are—you might have just arrived.

Welcome!

How to Train Your Human
Apr 16, 2025 – 52:44
War of the Worldviews
Apr 2, 2025 – 01:03:18
Your Money or Your Life
Mar 19, 2025 – 46:11
Clamor and Birdsong
Mar 5, 2025 – 57:49
Stand By for Further Instructions
Feb 19, 2025 – 38:46
You Have One Missed Call From Destiny
Feb 5, 2025 – 01:05:23
How Not Anxious?
Jan 22, 2025 – 52:31
Why So Anxious?
Jan 8, 2025 – 48:44
Best of Bewildered: How to Get Started
Dec 11, 2024 – 46:36
Best of Bewildered: The Other Butterflies
Nov 27, 2024 – 30:51
Awkward Moments
Nov 13, 2024 – 01:01:06
Missing Your Exit
Oct 30, 2024 – 56:53
When to Go with the Flow
Oct 16, 2024 – 50:41
Wilder Together
Oct 2, 2024 – 27:13
Don't Control Yourself
Sep 18, 2024 – 47:35
Treasure Hunter Mode: Engaged
Sep 4, 2024 – 54:59
Not Everything Has to Have a Point
Aug 21, 2024 – 47:41
Shining Your Light and Charging What You're Worth
Aug 7, 2024 – 51:59
Change the Shape of Culture
Jul 24, 2024 – 52:37
Beware Fake Urgency
Jul 10, 2024 – 41:00
The Empty Project
Jun 26, 2024 – 37:39
All the Way to Heaven is Heaven
Jun 12, 2024 – 43:16
"Dream Food" And Other Lies About Fulfillment
May 29, 2024 – 41:29
Living Lightly (and The Opposite of Golf)
May 15, 2024 – 39:37
Feeling Like an Alien
May 1, 2024 – 43:43
The Other Butterflies
Apr 17, 2024 – 30:51
Really, Really, Really Far Outside
Apr 3, 2024 – 51:32
On Burnout and Reset
Mar 20, 2024 – 46:13
Undercover Counterculture Bandit
Mar 6, 2024 – 52:38
Big Feelings
Feb 21, 2024 – 01:00:45
Change Cycle: Beauty That Moves
Feb 7, 2024 – 52:50
Change Cycle: Wild Horses
Jan 24, 2024 – 01:00:06
Change Cycle: A Space for Dreaming
Jan 10, 2024 – 01:03:35
Change Cycle: Bug Soup
Dec 13, 2023 – 53:49
Bittersweet Misunderstandings
Nov 29, 2023 – 42:26
Beauty That Moves
Nov 15, 2023 – 52:07
Zen and the Art of Travel With Toddlers
Nov 1, 2023 – 55:36
Best of Bewildered: Vulnerability Hangovers
Oct 18, 2023 – 54:29
Best of Bewildered: Making the Right Choice
Oct 4, 2023 – 47:02
Best of Bewildered: Elizabeth Gilbert gets Bewildered!
Sep 20, 2023 – 59:45
Wild Horses
Sep 6, 2023 – 59:36
Bug Soup
Aug 23, 2023 – 53:15
Dream Dashers and Way Stations
Aug 9, 2023 – 46:57
The Deep, Slow River of Creativity
Jul 26, 2023 – 37:55
When to Leave
Jul 12, 2023 – 33:48
The Pull
Jun 28, 2023 – 49:35
The Anxiety Files, Vol. 2: A Tiny Crunch of Fear
Jun 14, 2023 – 41:59
The Anxiety Files, Vol. 1: Courage and Avoidance
May 31, 2023 – 01:03:27
Not Getting Enough Done
May 17, 2023 – 52:16
In Pursuit of Balance
May 3, 2023 – 42:03

Recent Reviews

Nurse-midwife Ali

My weekly retreat

I wait all week for Bewildered where Ro & Marty help me retreat to back to my senses through laughter, fresh ideas, and authentic being.
✨Mer💫

I like it!!!!!

Marty & Ro have such lovely chemistry! They are HILARIOUS together and their thoughtful conversations always engage my curiosity and creativity. Listening to Bewildered makes me feel connected to all the other butterflies who are committed to finding one’s inner wildness while living in a culture that celebrates conformity. Apparently, today, only words that begin with “c” will do. Cheers!
laklotto

Surprising funny

So deep and yet so funny and relatable. Adore their dynamic.
authenticity71

Great podcast!

I always feel like I’m safe in a cozy space with compassionate, sane and funny friends when I listen!
HeidiK85

Love this podcast

I love, love, love Marty and Ro (I can call them that because they feel like friends 🙃). They align with my way of be-ing and they always make me smile.
Iknowdorothy

Art is why I get up in the morning

What a wonderful world to inhabit, even for a few minutes. This realistic view of a chaotic universe offers authenticity and peace. So grateful to hear truth and a bit of silliness can abide in dark times. Cheers!
LeeLee Lauree

yessss

i wish they let us post new reviews fir each episode. i love "let us blaspheme!" i am putting that on a pillow.
PeasInSpring

just makes me feel good

Martha & Rowan thank you for being. How did I forget to listen for a while? Returning and so glad to be laughing to my most essential self edges again. Good stuff
Neon-wreckage

Elevates me 💗

So much love and gratitude for this beautiful podcast. As a late diagnosed neurodivergent woman (who struggles with self-denial), when I listen to this podcast, I remember who I am and it brings me so much joy to have found my people (and myself again). Thank you! 🙏🥰
L23train

A Legend In Her Own Right

I learned about Martha Beck and her work on We Can Do Hard Things and was absolutely fascinated when I listened to the first podcast. Martha Beck is such an exquisite human and how she shares her heart, the knowledge she collects and studies over her years and the warmth and tenderness in her expression. I want to be like Martha Beck when I grow up! As a vocal coach which somewhat falls into the arena of therapist, I aspire to be the coach that she is. And as someone who has struggled with anxiety all my life, after reading Beck’s book, I am believe that I can be healed forever.
jillybeeeee

Jill and Molly

I listen to each episode sometimes twice! Martha and Ro have helped to change how I now live my life- with integrity, authentic, and natural- I finally understand what living life in the “culture “ means - how stepping out has given me the peace I’ve been searching for for. Hugs to your whole family! Nothing short of miracles😘😘😘😘😘
ThatsIt4Now

Delightfully Profound Splash of Cold Water

I love this podcast. These guys would get my jokes.
kphusma

I get so much out of this podcast

I get so much out of this podcast, just wanted to give back in a very small way to help get the word out to others, especially those who may not resonate with the dominant culture.
Kmarieg

Thank you!!!!

I love you and feel so thankful for your podcast. Bless you all!!!🙏🏼
Cassluckie

Wonderful and uplifting

Thank you, girls, for this beautiful gift! Every episode gives me a kinder, gentler perspective and redirects me to me. Love, love , love!!!
AHealthWarrior

The Four-Day Win

I have used, recommended, and revisited “The Four-Day Win” many times over the years. I have been listening to the Bewilldered podcast lots over the past few months. I have heard Martha say a few times to not read her book “The Four-Day Win”. On the podcast, she didn’t clarify why she doesn’t recommend the book. It has stuck in my head to the point that I felt the need to reach out for clarification. I am wondering how her thinking has evolved on this subject. I would love to learn more about your current views on the mental, emotional, and physiological components of body size and health. Thank you in advance for your response. Enjoy another beautiful day.
kwisgirda

Silly quirky vulnerable messy warm ….

with a place for snark. The banter here is a great advertisement for orienting to reality. Thank you Rowan and Martha.
Bit of a weird energy

Anyone else get the feeling that Rowan doesn’t like Martha?

No? Just me? Okay lol
holisticcouple

Love this podcast, a breath of fresh air!

I have been listening to this podcast on my daily walks and it’s been an incredible companion as I connect and align with my true self. Their combined vulnerability, generosity, and willingness to share their journeys allows me to feel deeply seen and understood. This podcast brings me hope, which right now in our world, I believe to be the most important currency. Thank you Martha and Rowan! I’m 28 now and can only hope to be as wise as you all when I am your respective ages.
A . Gad

Love this podcast

Martha Beck and this podcast came into my life just when I needed it most. Reading Martha’s wisdom in her books sent me down a rabbit hole of wanting to discover everything she has ever done. (Not unlike Diana!) And this podcast has been such a blessing. The topics are always good and pertinent to my journey. Getting to know Rowan has been delightful, her adventurous wild spirit speaks to my soul. Keep on doing what you’re doing. You’re helping folks stay true to their own wild selves. Thank you.
J Leigh D

I LIKE IT!

I LIKE IT!
DJSlowRainbowFade/Fingers

The episode about urgency

I am deeply healed by this episode. So many things you said were things I was already aligning in but telling the difference between fear based urgency and creative urgency is so reassuring.
completely happy customer!

Love Everything!

I love everything about this show! Information, insight, life lessons , but Most of all the laughter and Fun!!!♥️♥️♥️
Curious, scared and laughing

Cahoot

I always love listening to Martha and Row. They have helped me to challenge culture on an almost daily basis. I especially loved the idea of a chahoot because challenging our long held assumptions is a little easier if we feel less alone and of course retain a sense of curiosity and humor. Thanks for always making my day!
Mo in Co

Hilarious and Real

A new episode of Bewildered always feels like a delicious chocolate I can’t wait to unwrap. Marty and Ro are so freakin’ hilarious just by telling their lives they way they are! This podcast (along with The Gathering Pod) has sparked a whole new lexicon among a few kindred spirit friends where we drop Marty-and-Ro-isms as shorthand for sharing moments of synchronicity or moments of following our senses instead of culture. In particular, I appreciate how Marty and Ro are obviously gurus and human forms of higher powers for our time, AND totally foibled neurotic hilarious nut jobs. Because how could you be latter day Buddhas and not be!! Thank you for sharing foibles and eternal truths in the same conversations.
nukkanukka

Freedom, for real

I have been spent most of my life trying to find ME, and part of that process has included following, listening to, and watching others who seem to have found themselves. Martha and Rowan immediately stood out to me as those kind of people. They practice and embody a kind of freedom and understanding of the world that is contagious and inspiring to me. As I’ve listened to their stories, thoughts, and struggles, I’ve found greater courage and access to finding myself and my own self-expression. It turns out this is a lifelong practice, and being in community with others who are on the same path is essential. My heart is full of gratitude for the generosity and wisdom of these two humans.
Truth_is_hope

Striving to be a ‘wildling’

“If it feels good and looks strange you’re on the right path.” The joyful recognition of another who is off the spectrum of culture in some way, as described in the episode called Blowing Up Your Life, is an absolutely perfect way of articulating what draws me to this podcast. The real trick is discovering what feels good to you - I’ll keep listening and learning. Thank you.
Coach Jamie P.

Wildly charming & perfectly timed.

These are the conversations we should all be having! Science, insight, humor… funny animal videos… every time I hit “play” it sincerely feels like it. Thank you both. Love you both. 🖤✨
Mel T, MD

Love this pod

Marty and Row are incredibly enlightening
Em36291

BEST “STAY WILD” YET

Amazing to finally meet Karen and see the love overflowing from your relationships and family.
Liza_Coach

Really Love This Podcast

Just listened to the episode with Karen - absolutely my favorite! So many beautiful insights - especially the parts about love being freedom and unconditional. Amazing! Please bring her back! Love the entire show and get so much from listening. ❤️
Perpetual Pod Peruser

Annoying and rambling

I have always loved hearing Martha Beck as a guest on other podcasts I listen to. But I was disappointed find that as hosts, there feels like no focus. I gave up after the first 20 min - they were talking about their life & anecdotes & a random joke and on and on. I just found the whole thing annoying. I guess I’ll get Martha’s content on other shows where there’s a host to focus the conversation.
Kmc5555555555555

All the love

Thank you so much Marty and Ro for sharing your experiences, insights, love, wisdom, and laughter! I have learned so much from you both and feel more connected to my essential self/true nature than ever before. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Genesrock

Helpful info

This podcast gives practical advice and encouragement to make life a bit better for school week. It can feel like a good conversation with a likeminded, wise friend and mentor.
Lizonvvvv

Wonderful!

You guys are so much fun and insightful. Thank you,
NZCANM

Love!

Toddler Jet Lag was my first episode and I’m hooked. Thanks for sharing deeply and exploring concepts that affect us all. And inspire us to individual action. I’m still terrified for our 10 months first flight but asking myself the question “why go” and coming up with some really interesting answers. Plus it’s only domestic.
Wee Flower Farmer

FOMO

You had me @ Flock of Magical Otters! Enjoy the podcast immensely.
AbbyC222

best podcast ever

I love ya Ro and Martha! Having your vibration available in the daily is such a saving grace for me in my life- and the best reminder to seat myself back into my integrity. Thank you for being so transparent and honest. 💙
Melissawrites

Spot on!

I’m new to the show but am so attracted to the intelligence, honesty, and straight talk. Doesn’t seem to be the often heard chatty proving yourself I am cute show. Rather the I am sitting with myself and you as openly and forthrightly as possible. Seems a show that can prompt real, profound, positive change. Thank you!!
Annabanana-6

So relatable

I am a scientist a lesbian, and have ADHD- this podcast has been a real comfort to me because I relate so strongly with the quirky, smart Martha. And, I am inspired by the love and acceptance shown by Rowan for her in all her glorious oddness. I loved Martha’s book The Joy Diet years ago and this podcast was a special find. She is teaching me self acceptance and even pride rather than shame for the way that I am. And I have to say that although I’m happily married to my own wife, I have a crush on Rowan with the cute things she says and her inflections - I can’t get enough of her saying that we should leave a review “especially if it’s Apple” and that she wouldn’t object to our leaving 6 stars- so here they are! ******
MiffMuff

My New Favorite Podcast

These are among my most favorite people to listen to for wise and thoughtful commentary, and sense of connection and community. I am delighted to have found this podcast. It is soul sustenance.
NicolePhoto

One of my favorite podcasts!

This podcast provides so much light in my life. I love listening to Martha and Rowan’s conversations and musings about culture. The way they laugh together always makes me laugh. It makes me want to hang out with them and have cool conversations. I always look forward to new episodes. As a mother of two young boys, my days are spent listening to stories about farts and video games. Thank you for breaking up the monotony and giving me the interesting discourse I so desperately need!
Nieztejziemi

Witt and joy delight

I don’t think I am “bewildered” but listening to your podcast I wish I was. Having been on a quest to reconnect with my true essence for years I find your conversations both reassuring and enlightening. Your podcast is a real gem, a perfect match of wisdom and humor. I always feel welcome.
danafrost

A podcast for the ages!

I was trained as a Like Coach-Master Life Coach model in 2007-09 in the early days of Martha Beck’s coaching program. Her insights and training transformed my life but most importantly equipped me to transform my own life during the perpetual change process over the past nearly twenty years. The recent episode about Square 4 of the change cycle and the never arriving-ness resonated.
Leigh Annie Annie

Thank you!

Amazingness
Coach Molly

My People! Hilarious and Helpful

I LOVE and so appreciate the episodes where Rowan asks Martha to “fix her” because I can generally so relate to how Rowan is feeling - especially being a 40yr old toddler mom, myself! I love listening to these episodes in the morning. They make me laugh and help me start my foray off with less negative self-talk. And, I love binge listening to these on plane rides. So good! Thank you, both! You are a treasure!
RomyDiMaggio

Love

Love Love Love…that is all.
Aqua Sock

The best

My people ♥️
MichelleGoss

Excellent and accessible.

Great content that is both inspiring and practical.
MossMusic

Bewildered

I Totally adore your podcast wonderful wild wisdom, humor and sisterhood. If you ever wannabe a frouple please consider my application, seriously! And please ask Glennon Abby & Sister how they do it: just a podcasters phone number for messages questions and adulations. Much easier. Mahalo from Maui!